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Layo and Abuse
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i***@gmail.com
2015-06-02 02:57:18 UTC
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Layo appears to be under impression that I am a danger to her. I am not in any way. I harbor her no ill will. I am willing to be a good Christian about this and forgive her everything: Max, David, yelling, leeching, you name it. I do not have however to stand up for ridiculous accusations - such as portraying me as an abuser.

A man who is truly abusive would have not put up with any of her behavior. Having known any number of abusive men - and any number of women who've been with abusive men - I have to say that, if she had been with a real abuser, she would not be alive. Instead she was with me; and not only is she still alive to tell the story but she also appears to be married to another man.

Lily Allen had a song about being wooed by a social conservative. What some social conservatives like to do is criminalize the men in the liberal cultures and then appropriate for themselves the women; whom they then of course treat like complete trash. This has happened to any number of women I know. And this continues to be happening, for everyone to see, on the Internet.

I may not be perfect; but I am better than most of what such women stand to deal with. A real abuser, or a real misogynist, would have killed them for their behavior or at least did everything in his power to make sure that their lives are horrible. I know such men. They include my ex-wife's exes. And she, as someone who knows what a real abuser is, would never be so ridiculous as to call me an abuser or a misogynist.

So there you have it. I am willing to forgive and to have good will; but I am not willing to put up with wrongful accusations.

And this is especially the case when coming from a woman who has had death threats from people whom she does not see as abusers, but has had none from a man whom she does.
Cujo DeSockpuppet
2015-06-02 03:48:30 UTC
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Layo appears to be under impression that I am a danger to her. I am
not in any way. I harbor her no ill will. I am willing to be a good
Christian about this and forgive her everything: Max, David, yelling,
leeching, you name it. I do not have however to stand up for
ridiculous accusations - such as portraying me as an abuser.
A man who is truly abusive would have not put up with any of her
behavior. Having known any number of abusive men - and any number of
women who've been with abusive men - I have to say that, if she had
been with a real abuser, she would not be alive. Instead she was with
me; and not only is she still alive to tell the story but she also
appears to be married to another man.
Lily Allen had a song about being wooed by a social conservative. What
some social conservatives like to do is criminalize the men in the
liberal cultures and then appropriate for themselves the women; whom
they then of course treat like complete trash. This has happened to
any number of women I know. And this continues to be happening, for
everyone to see, on the Internet.
I may not be perfect; but I am better than most of what such women
stand to deal with. A real abuser, or a real misogynist, would have
killed them for their behavior or at least did everything in his power
to make sure that their lives are horrible. I know such men. They
include my ex-wife's exes. And she, as someone who knows what a real
abuser is, would never be so ridiculous as to call me an abuser or a
misogynist.
So there you have it. I am willing to forgive and to have good will;
but I am not willing to put up with wrongful accusations.
And this is especially the case when coming from a woman who has had
death threats from people whom she does not see as abusers, but has
had none from a man whom she does.
1. So you're stalking her again? Just drink bleach. Please.
2. Ex-wife? So the one on Oz divorced you? Geez, you really are a loser.
3. HTH!
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i***@gmail.com
2015-06-02 05:51:26 UTC
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1. So you're stalking her again? Just drink bleach. Please.
I am definitely not stalking her. I am stating that I refuse to put up with wrong accusations.
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2. Ex-wife? So the one on Oz divorced you? Geez, you really are a loser.
She did divorce me, but we remain very good friends.

The same cannot be said about many people out there, or here for that matter.
Cujo DeSockpuppet
2015-06-03 23:50:18 UTC
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1. So you're stalking her again? Just drink bleach. Please.
I am definitely not stalking her. I am stating that I refuse to put up
with wrong accusations.
Stalker.
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2. Ex-wife? So the one on Oz divorced you? Geez, you really are a loser.
She did divorce me, but we remain very good friends.
Liar.
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The same cannot be said about many people out there, or here for that matter.
Babble much, Wankboi?
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alt.paranormal, alt.astrology and alt.astrology.metapsych. Supreme Holy
Overlord of alt.fucknozzles. Winner of the 8/2000, 2/2003 & 4/2007 HL&S
award. July 2005 Hammer of Thor. Winning Trainer - Barbara Woodhouse
Memorial Dog Whistle - 12/2005 & 4/2008. COOSN-266-06-01895.
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I won't be able to pay my rent" - Ed begging, again.
t***@null.invalid
2015-06-02 04:23:04 UTC
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Layo appears to be under impression that I am a danger to her...
Younger brother, y'all were done broken up by the summer of 1999. I
still sometimes tote something somewhat torchlike for her too, in those
days Layo did all she could to encourage anyone who might to do so in a
way that made her endurably memorable, but Ilya: that was a long time
ago. And unlike me you're still young, physically fit, handsome and
capable of facing the world, so you should have no need to reach that
far back. Surely the "real" world around you has a few women who are as
noteworthy, and who might even be younger, hotter, and less damaged in
the head? You might even find one who can make her own damn money.

FFS man, you & I (and fuck knows how many others) were lucky to have
survived that woman. And this latest response of hers shows she ain't
changed much: clearly she still enjoys pushing your buttons to make you
hurt, angry and miserable. Do you really want more of that? Whether
you're capable of being a danger to her or not she's shown she gets
her kicks by making us dangers to ourselves. If I can learn to avoid
that kind of shit surely you can.

The past is gone. Over. Truly past. Let it keep rotting, far away.
Midlife crisis is a hell of an ordeal, but the way to go is FORWARD.
i***@gmail.com
2015-06-02 05:44:58 UTC
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Layo appears to be under impression that I am a danger to her...
Younger brother, y'all were done broken up by the summer of 1999. I
still sometimes tote something somewhat torchlike for her too, in those
days Layo did all she could to encourage anyone who might to do so in a
way that made her endurably memorable, but Ilya: that was a long time
ago. And unlike me you're still young, physically fit, handsome and
capable of facing the world, so you should have no need to reach that
far back. Surely the "real" world around you has a few women who are as
noteworthy, and who might even be younger, hotter, and less damaged in
the head? You might even find one who can make her own damn money.
FFS man, you & I (and fuck knows how many others) were lucky to have
survived that woman. And this latest response of hers shows she ain't
changed much: clearly she still enjoys pushing your buttons to make you
hurt, angry and miserable. Do you really want more of that? Whether
you're capable of being a danger to her or not she's shown she gets
her kicks by making us dangers to ourselves. If I can learn to avoid
that kind of shit surely you can.
The past is gone. Over. Truly past. Let it keep rotting, far away.
Midlife crisis is a hell of an ordeal, but the way to go is FORWARD.
David, you are absolutely right that the way is forward. I am only regretful about the animosity that exists between me and Layo when there was not a good reason for it.

This appears to be the case of someone using men to work out her problems and then attacking the man.

As I said, I have no ill will toward Layo. But neither do I have to put up with ridiculous accusations.
David
2015-06-08 09:11:35 UTC
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As I said, I have no ill will toward Layo. But neither do I have to
put up with ridiculous accusations.
But neither do you have to have anything to do with Layo at all, which I
advise against.

Sheesh. Don't you have enough mental scars already? I sure do.
i***@gmail.com
2015-06-09 03:43:40 UTC
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As I said, I have no ill will toward Layo. But neither do I have to
put up with ridiculous accusations.
But neither do you have to have anything to do with Layo at all, which I
advise against.
At this point the ball is in Layo's court. I can do nothing if any attempt I may make to make contact would get seen as being stalking. So if Layo wants anything to do with me, she'll have to make the move.
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Sheesh. Don't you have enough mental scars already? I sure do.
Got plenty of those, yes, but most of them did not come from Layo.
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